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Fred Feller's avatar

I have struggled to understand the Savior's sacrifice. I view it now as a PROCESS and not one event or another. The opening act of the atoning process started in Gethsemane and then CONTINUED in the long night that followed where He went like a lamb to the slaughter as he faced the interrogation and abuse of the Jews. He answered them nothing. The culminating act of the process was the cross on Golgotha. It was essential that He give up His life and to yield up mortality voluntarily as a willing sacrifice for us. I am inclined to think that there were different parts of the suffering that He had to go through to make the sacrifice utterly complete. However, whatever He had suffered up to the cross would have meant nothing unless He completed the process fully and finally. We are gratedul for the cross and all that it represents. BTW, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I am grateful for the cross and also Gethsemane. I am also grateful for the Empty Tomb.

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Andreas Martinson's avatar

I have seen some from Gen Z in the church also wearing crosses. It's an interesting piece of church culture and not doctrine and seems to stem from wanting to distinguish ourselves from catholicism or other christian groups as well as emphasize the living Christ. This article gives a nice overview and points out that some early LDS members wore crosses: https://www.ldsliving.com/what-church-leaders-and-church-history-teach-about-wearing-and-displaying-the-cross/s/10418. It was more a mid-20th century development to avoid cross imagery.

I also read the great apostasy chapter from your book. I like how you get to the crux of the issue, which, from what I read, sounds like protestants believe in an apostasy, but not an absolute one. Whereas LDS members would argue that there was a complete apostasy.

Part of the evidence used to support a partial apostasy is Matthew 16:18. However, LDS members would argue that eventually Christ will prevail over all evil and subdue everything under his feet so despite an apostasy, the end result is a victory. D&C 21:6 and D&C 17:8 both use the same language for Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdrey respectively. However, Joseph Smith ended up being martyred for his beliefs. In this respect it could mean that God will accomplish his purposes through you. Another explanation could also be that since Peter was given the sealing power, that death will not prevail.

Additionally, would be curious to hear your thoughts on Amos 8:11-12. The LDS church interprets that as the Great Apostasy and the absence of continued revelation.

Finally, reading this book right now from a general authority named Tad R. Callister called, "The Blueprint of Christ's Church". It essentially seems like the LDS version of what you are doing with your book: https://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Christs-Church-Tad-Callister/dp/1629720216

Have you read it? The table of contents is ordered by question in the same way that yours is as well, which I thought was a cool coincidence.

As always, thanks for the thoughtful article and insights!

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